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Beastlords on Launch

    • 2 posts
    November 22, 2018 10:19 PM PST

    Don't make us wait until luclin to have the greatest class ever.  Beastlord at launch please!  Or #beastlords@lunch

    • 347 posts
    November 23, 2018 5:47 AM PST

    I'd prefer to see Bard before launch then the Necromancer, but I'm just talking crazy talk.

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    November 23, 2018 8:53 AM PST
    Did VR say something about house pets?
    Cause we all know a Beaslord is a wanna be shaman with a pet cat. Lol.
    • 122 posts
    November 23, 2018 9:04 AM PST

    i loved my beastlord

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    November 23, 2018 9:13 AM PST

    SoWplz said: Did VR say something about house pets? Cause we all know a Beaslord is a wanna be shaman with a pet cat. Lol.

    This.. pretty much. Bards and Necromancers will be important additions to the game. Necromancers will likely fill the ‘next’ pet class. There will already be plenty of pet classes at that point. 

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    November 23, 2018 11:25 AM PST

    Absolutely nothing says Necro will be a pet class.  Could be more of a blood mage from VG or similar, maybe drain and buff, like an Anarchy Online Trader perhaps.

     

    Remember all those ppl butthurt over the Direlord reveal?

    This isnt other games, its it's own thing.

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    November 23, 2018 11:33 AM PST

    @Xilshale

    I entertained a Support/CC version and a pure pet centric DPS version.

     

    https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/9449/the-necromancer-as-a-concept

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    November 23, 2018 2:08 PM PST

    No thanks

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    November 23, 2018 2:52 PM PST

    Xilshale said:

    Absolutely nothing says Necro will be a pet class.  Could be more of a blood mage from VG or similar, maybe drain and buff, like an Anarchy Online Trader perhaps.

     

    Remember all those ppl butthurt over the Direlord reveal?

    This isnt other games, its it's own thing.

    I said ’likely’ .. if Necromancers are like how they’ve been in anything from Diablo to Everquest. Honestly, I’d be surprised if Necromancer doesn’t have a pet of some sort. I was referring to ‘Necromancer,‘ but if we have ‘Blood Mage’ here, that would be fun as well.

    Nothing surprised me at all about the Dire Lord not having a pet.. it’s not a Shadow Knight after all. 

    I realize this is Pantheon and it will be great. Pantheon is also the spiritual successor to ’Classic Everquest‘ - as Camelot Unchained is the spiritual successor to Dark Age of Camelot. It’s just how it is; the devs of each made those previous games & have said this themselves. There will be some inspirations of course.


    This post was edited by Syrif at November 25, 2018 9:42 AM PST
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    November 23, 2018 3:02 PM PST

    Syrif said:

    Nothing surprised me at all about the Dire Lord not having a pet.. it’s not a Shadow Knight after all.

     

    Well, the SK's pet was a really poor design due to level difference. A weak but same level pet would have worked waaay better but the idea was to be a half necromancer back then, and thus using downgraded spells, which gave little troubles untill the low level pet kicked in...

     

    I think no one will miss them, truly, but I would have done with a cool Bloodfiend scaled to my own level.

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    November 23, 2018 3:56 PM PST

    Well not that it cant be done, but a Necromancer without a pet just wouldnt be a Necromancer IMHO


    This post was edited by vigilantee13 at November 23, 2018 3:56 PM PST
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    November 23, 2018 4:56 PM PST

    goodkitty said:

    Don't make us wait until luclin to have the greatest class ever.  Beastlord at launch please!  Or #beastlords@lunch

    Prepare to be totally disappointed.  Beastlords aren't even on the drawing table as far as we know..and that very class has been mentioned routinely for nearly 5 years now.

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    November 23, 2018 5:02 PM PST

    vigilantee13 said:

    Well not that it cant be done, but a Necromancer without a pet just wouldnt be a Necromancer IMHO

    True.

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    November 24, 2018 5:40 PM PST

    I did not like the BL class. It basically ruined the uniqueness of Shaman (Buffs/Slow), Mage (Pet), and Monk (shared equipment/FD) class by almost being as good as those three classes in their respective areas. There are also some traditional PnP Lore (EQ foundation was D&D/MUDS) area's why BL should never of been similar to Monks.

    It would be like a Paladin being almost as good as a Cleric and almost as good as a Warrior.

    I don't mind hybrid classes, in fact, I like them. I just like Hybrid classes that know their role and suffer the consequences of hybridization, not just the benefit. BL only had benefits. In classic RPING, hybrids had many penalties to make up for the benefit of multiple class skills, and that's the way it should still be.


    This post was edited by bigdogchris at November 24, 2018 5:45 PM PST
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    November 27, 2018 11:30 AM PST

    I know there are plans to add Bard but, really, 12 (or 13) classes is a lot of choice.  Any semblance of balance or uniqueness among the classes is already going to be difficult. BLs never really added all that much anyway, only detracted from those classes from which they borrowed abilities.

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    November 27, 2018 12:08 PM PST

    vigilantee13 said:

    Well not that it cant be done, but a Necromancer without a pet just wouldnt be a Necromancer IMHO

    Could be "pets" that are used as a siphoning resource to funnel HP/mana/stats to other group members and/or to grapple/CC enemies instead of anything like Summoner pets. 

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    November 27, 2018 12:27 PM PST

    @Iksar I think Vigilantee meant Necro pet as in a “pet class.” I imagine the Necro pet will be pretty different from Summoner’s, but I’d be very, very, very surprised if it is not a combat pet. 

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    November 28, 2018 9:42 AM PST

    @Syrif I would like the necro from diablo 2...best necro...but would be over powered in an MMO lol.

    • 697 posts
    November 28, 2018 9:43 AM PST

    @Syrif I would like the necro from diablo 2...best necro...but would be over powered in an MMO lol.

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    November 29, 2018 8:09 PM PST

    Watemper said:

    @Syrif I would like the necro from diablo 2...best necro...but would be over powered in an MMO lol.

    That made me LoL. I can see a D2 Necro running around with all those pets lol. That would be funny! :)


    This post was edited by Syrif at November 29, 2018 8:10 PM PST
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    November 30, 2018 7:23 AM PST

    I would say bard and beastlord definitly. I think we have a decent amount of pure DPS classes. Supports are still lacking. (granted BL were decent damage, but they were nice when you didn't have a slower in the group)