I searched and didn't find a thread on this, even though I remember someone referring to it recently.
Basically, I want to propose that the game client allow us to change the order of group members in our group window so that F2 can always be, for example, the Tank.
I know you can rebind the keys to achieve the same effect, but that's a pretty drastic thing to try to do everytime the group order changes. I also know you can (probably?) reform the group in the order you want if you're the group leader. But being able to just drag a group member from one spot to another is drastically simpler than both of those workarounds, and would, I think, be a tremendous quality of life improvement without any downsides.
That'd be a great thing, Nihimon. I'd want to do that because I will be healing and I always want the tank at the top, then me, then DPS. That way when I play whack-a-mole I don't have to even think about who is where and on which short-cut keys ... aint nobody got time for that!
Kytastrophe said: Can we use F1-F6 to target our party, or are we stuck with clicking the screen/ viewing area and group panel?
I *think* I heard them mention it in one of the streams that the F1-F6 keys will target party members, but I could have been hallucinating.
I also agree it would be nice to be able to sort party members. It would be nice to predetermine order to make it constant between groups (at least as constant as possible with different group makeups).
Kytastrophe said: Can we use F1-F6 to target our party, or are we stuck with clicking the screen/ viewing area and group panel?
They did mention F1-F6, I'm hoping they will let me decide who is F2-F6. I'm ok woth a;ways being F1, but i want my tank to always be F2. Now don't quote me but I'm pretty sur it was the last stream or 2 they mentioned the F1-F6 thing, but maybe it was bugged at the time? Not sure.
Dubah said:Kytastrophe said: Can we use F1-F6 to target our party, or are we stuck with clicking the screen/ viewing area and group panel?They did mention F1-F6, I'm hoping they will let me decide who is F2-F6. I'm ok woth a;ways being F1, but i want my tank to always be F2. Now don't quote me but I'm pretty sur it was the last stream or 2 they mentioned the F1-F6 thing, but maybe it was bugged at the time? Not sure.
Mapping your own keys is one of those QoL improvements that games in general have adapted over the last 2 decades. I cannot imaging not being able to determine what or who is on F1, F8, H, or RMB4 or anywhere.
Dashed said:Dubah said:Kytastrophe said: Can we use F1-F6 to target our party, or are we stuck with clicking the screen/ viewing area and group panel?They did mention F1-F6, I'm hoping they will let me decide who is F2-F6. I'm ok woth a;ways being F1, but i want my tank to always be F2. Now don't quote me but I'm pretty sur it was the last stream or 2 they mentioned the F1-F6 thing, but maybe it was bugged at the time? Not sure.
Mapping your own keys is one of those QoL improvements that games in general have adapted over the last 2 decades. I cannot imaging not being able to determine what or who is on F1, F8, H, or RMB4 or anywhere.
Well, key mapping would be obnoxious to change every single time you join a group. Which is why I hope they let us change the group around with a simple click and drag kind of thing. I hate changing my keys tho, because then i forget i changed them
Nihimon said:I'm really glad to see so much positive support for this idea. I'm still curious if someone is clever enough to think of a downside, though :)
*Puts his hand up* Honestly Nihimon, it just feels a bit classist mate... bad for the community i think, i mean case in point being...
jcopey said:This would be a great QoL addition. Muscle memory - esp. for healers like me. F2 tank. F3 off-tank. F4-5 dps. F6 enchanter
Thats a perfect example, putting us poor ol enchanters down the bottom! We're basically left in the too hard basket for healers who cant be bothered to reach to f6 :) I mean... it's us.. the Enchanters, the most charasmatic ones :p
Jokes... obviously!
Great idea mate and would be useful feature for all classes for heals, assists, buffs, /shields and of course most importantly /rude ;)
Hokanu said:Nihimon said:I'm really glad to see so much positive support for this idea. I'm still curious if someone is clever enough to think of a downside, though :)
*Puts his hand up* Honestly Nihimon, it just feels a bit classist mate... bad for the community i think, i mean case in point being...
jcopey said:This would be a great QoL addition. Muscle memory - esp. for healers like me. F2 tank. F3 off-tank. F4-5 dps. F6 enchanter
Thats a perfect example, putting us poor ol enchanters down the bottom! We're basically left in the too hard basket for healers who cant be bothered to reach to f6 :) I mean... it's us.. the Enchanters, the most charasmatic ones :p
Jokes... obviously!
Great idea mate and would be useful feature for all classes for heals, assists, buffs, /shields and of course most importantly /rude ;)
Don't worry Hokanu, I'd put you on F4, enchanters are more important than number hungry dps lol
Nihimon said:I'm really glad to see so much positive support for this idea. I'm still curious if someone is clever enough to think of a downside, though :)
Downside....When I fail to heal someone because they being an obnoxious little twerp, I can't use the excuse that I hit the wrong hotkey. :)
Nihimon said:I searched and didn't find a thread on this, even though I remember someone referring to it recently.
Basically, I want to propose that the game client allow us to change the order of group members in our group window so that F2 can always be, for example, the Tank.
I know you can rebind the keys to achieve the same effect, but that's a pretty drastic thing to try to do everytime the group order changes. I also know you can (probably?) reform the group in the order you want if you're the group leader. But being able to just drag a group member from one spot to another is drastically simpler than both of those workarounds, and would, I think, be a tremendous quality of life improvement without any downsides.
Thats an interesting idea. To expand on it, the ability to drag and move overlays around your screen would be even nicer.
btw this group actually invented the F1-FX player selection, EQ1 was the first game/mmo to do so. All others copied them, as that have so many other functions and ideas.
Vaultarn said:Sounds like a great idea, which leads me to a question related to this in a way.
Will there be a way to use mouseover functionality, so if your mouse pointer is over a group member and an ability is pressed it works on character being moused over?
this^^ too, is an awesome idea. optional of course so that no one is 'forced' to use a mouse. I say this because some people can't use a keyboard very well. I have seen people try to play WoW with 5 bars full of buttons to "Click on" because they can't teach themselves how to press 1-2-3-4-5-6 and Shift 1-2-3-4-5-6 etc. Of course it doesn't work and leads to terrible dps trying to click, but in Pantheon, it's not a twitch based game, so clicking my not be so bad.
something like VuhDo wow add on type healing.
Something i never even considered. F keys are so handy to begin with i never thought to move people around. I dont think the extra code to write it out would be worth the QoL improvement above using F2 vs F6. At least F1 stays the same!
Now to further this line of thought for how this would work. If they instituted some form of drag and drop name selection into group/raid manager that could make things a little easier. Drag this person into this group and boom done. I just dont know how they would code that without rethinking some base structure. But its an idea worth kicking around a little. Visually intuitive structure has always been popular.
kreed99 said:Something i never even considered. F keys are so handy to begin with i never thought to move people around. I dont think the extra code to write it out would be worth the QoL improvement above using F2 vs F6. At least F1 stays the same!
Now to further this line of thought for how this would work. If they instituted some form of drag and drop name selection into group/raid manager that could make things a little easier. Drag this person into this group and boom done. I just dont know how they would code that without rethinking some base structure. But its an idea worth kicking around a little. Visually intuitive structure has always been popular.
Good point, I don't know how hard it is to write the code lol, something to take in mind every time you ask developers for something, is this possible or easy?
I actually really like the idea. I just like efficiency, and of course playing devil’s advocate. It might actually be a simple code idk.
