I have been keeping up with all the stream videos and if I am not mistaken it was noted that macros would not be allowed in Pantheon to keep people from automating skills and such.
These things I do completely agree with, but I would like to bring up that a very stipped down macro system would be great for role playing or engaging users. If macros could be limited to strictly chat text and emotes, such as having your charcter say something whitty when resurecting, opening a portal, or summoning a pet for example.
I feel that these things can add some depth to character personalites.
On a side note FFXI had the ability to add sound FX to macros which helped for pulls so when people are getting tired of long nights of playing it keeps people alert for when a pull was being made.
This post is just to find out what the devs thoughts are on this, and if they decide it does not fit into Pantheon feel free to close this thread, but I do think that it would be good to capture the thoughts and decision on this so we all get a clear picture of the Pantheon game mechanics.
Let me know your thoughts!
I don't think they were saying there wouldn't ANY macros, just that they would be quite limiting. Please just say "NO" to adding sound effects to the macro system.
From the FAQ
10.5 Will players be able to make ‘macros’?
There will be plenty of / (slash) commands that players can assign to hot keys. Likewise, the GUI will be customizable. However, players will not be able to create hotkeys that automate playing their character nor chain a long list of commands together.
In FFXIV, we use sound effects in macros to flag important things (like raising someone), or to remind everyone to do a raid mechanic like stack up or stand in the circles (as opposed to not standing in them)
They *can* be abused or overused but it's very rare to see this. Just some food for thought there.
I used macros on EQ1 in groups on ym necro and wizard so I could hit one button and watch TV at the same time. Something like...
/assist, pause 5
/pet attack, pause 5
/cast 1, pause 50
/cast 2, pause 50
/useitem 15 (epic clicky) and or /sit
So I look forward to using these in Pantheon to the limit provided.
But to channel Bazgrim
Searched keyword "macro"
Some posts form Kilsin in there.
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/1804/macro-s-and-commands
So in a video stream I heard:
(Mr Brad McQuaid answering on a related topic) "...Actual mods, grabbing information that shouldn't be sent to the clients and things like that, we're definiately against that, we're gonna do what we can to minimize that. You can't stop it 100% of the time but we can make the general statement that running some sort of 3rd party app that gave you an advantage over another player is not something that we approve of."
(question by Cohh) "Just to be perfectly clear here, there will not be any type of allowed macroing or autoplaying or anything like that, correct?"
(answer) "No, no, nothing like that that allows you to automate game play, no."
My take on this: It's not really possible, like Brad says, to catch people doing this 100% of the time. Actually, it's pretty hard to catch them at all without installing some malware on their computer. And even then, players can usually skirt around it, especially with a macroing keyboard.
They will talk a big game so people will feel like there is a level playing field, but actually they don't have to do anything about it, as long as they convince you that the are doing something about it.
So macroing... yeah. They cant catch us.
Oh wait, I posted this on the forums.
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brindylln said:So in a video stream I heard:
(Mr Brad McQuaid answering on a related topic) "...Actual mods, grabbing information that shouldn't be sent to the clients and things like that, we're definiately against that, we're gonna do what we can to minimize that. You can't stop it 100% of the time but we can make the general statement that running some sort of 3rd party app that gave you an advantage over another player is not something that we approve of."
(question by Cohh) "Just to be perfectly clear here, there will not be any type of allowed macroing or autoplaying or anything like that, correct?"
(answer) "No, no, nothing like that that allows you to automate game play, no."
My take on this: It's not really possible, like Brad says, to catch people doing this 100% of the time. Actually, it's pretty hard to catch them at all without installing some malware on their computer. And even then, players can usually skirt around it, especially with a macroing keyboard.
They will talk a big game so people will feel like there is a level playing field, but actually they don't have to do anything about it, as long as they convince you that the are doing something about it.
So macroing... yeah. They cant catch us.
Oh wait, I posted this on the forums.
*USER DELETED*
Your mixing apples and oranges. A macro like those in EQ and my example is not "automating gameplay" whereas making my character do things on its own aka a bot script is.
Now if you take my example and use a 3rd party tool, say autoclicker to click said macro to say, fish while you go wash the dishes or something then that is automating but using a macro like my example and a human clicking the button is not.
