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    • 35 posts
    June 27, 2017 9:45 AM PDT

    But i started a good discussion over in /r/mmorpg about gear planned obsolescence.  Since this game i consider very close to early EQOA and i am really looking forward to it, i figured it would be worth sharing.

     

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comments/6jnfpm/i_would_say_one_of_the_biggest_turn_offs_to_me/?sort=new

    • 2130 posts
    June 27, 2017 10:56 AM PDT

    This will probably get moved to Off Topic, but I'll reply anyway.

    EQ certainly had some useful items here and there, but 95% of your gear had a direct statistical upgrade from classic to Kunark for all classes. The same is true of most expansions.

    Clickable items are great, but I think you're overestimating a little bit. There are maybe 5-10 useful clickables from very early EQ that are still useful today, and that's 5-10 out of probably ten thousand or more pieces of equipment in the game. That is a fraction of a percent.

    EQOA is an interesting beast, but at level 60 most characters were pretty similarly equipped. EQOA only ever had one expansion, so it didn't really have time to develop a gear treadmill. I have a feeling that if EQOA had stayed alive with yearly content launches, that itemization resets would have become standard as well.


    This post was edited by Liav at June 27, 2017 10:56 AM PDT
    • 35 posts
    June 27, 2017 11:09 AM PDT

    Liav said:

    This will probably get moved to Off Topic, but I'll reply anyway.

    EQ certainly had some useful items here and there, but 95% of your gear had a direct statistical upgrade from classic to Kunark for all classes. The same is true of most expansions.

    Clickable items are great, but I think you're overestimating a little bit. There are maybe 5-10 useful clickables from very early EQ that are still useful today, and that's 5-10 out of probably ten thousand or more pieces of equipment in the game. That is a fraction of a percent.

    EQOA is an interesting beast, but at level 60 most characters were pretty similarly equipped. EQOA only ever had one expansion, so it didn't really have time to develop a gear treadmill. I have a feeling that if EQOA had stayed alive with yearly content launches, that itemization resets would have become standard as well.

     

    I don't know though, i mean..the game lasted 9 years and never became a gear treadmil. I can honestly say too that from day 1 to the last day that game always felt exciting and never really got boring.  Even if there ever was more content launches, i still think it would have hada good chance of still have a lot of the end game loot being viable.  You can always add content and new gear, without increasing the player level, item lvl or armor lvl and still have a game that can keep it's players entertained.  The game actually did introduce a lot of new content believe it or not with different isles and zones, they just were never classified as "expansions".


    This post was edited by striderida1 at June 27, 2017 11:10 AM PDT
    • 2130 posts
    June 27, 2017 1:51 PM PDT

    EQOA lasted 9 years, but most of it was charity. That game rapidly became unprofitable to maintain.

    EQOA is probably my favorite MMO that I've ever played, but I can't say that it is a sustainable model for a long term higher population playerbase. The endgame of EQOA for me was mostly constantly rolling alts, which is what a lot of people did. There was a very finite amount of progression compared to most games.

    A few hundred people that are happy with such a game can't possibly bring enough revenue to make it work. While I'd love to see EQOA resurrected as a non-profit emulator project, that's about the only way such a game could ever work.

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    • 9115 posts
    June 27, 2017 10:00 PM PDT

    As guessed by Liav this has been moved to Off-Topic as it doesn't directly relate to Pantheon but refers to other games and external social media platforms other than Pantheons, it is fine to discuss but is not suitable for General Pantheon.