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Bot groups.

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    • 3 posts
    March 22, 2016 5:08 PM PDT

    Firstly, forgive me if there is another topic discussing this matter but I did a search and was not able to find one specifically. What is Visionary Realms' take on someone 'botting' and/or playing multiple characters? I think the majority will agree that this can ruin the experience for others. Especially when bot groups are controlling camps/spawns/etc. I have to choose my words carefully. If someone can pay for X amount of accounts and control them all without using a program, I am all for it. I use to two box for powerleveling purposes in EQ1 and EQ2. I've just seen what botting has done to other good games and am afraid for its effect here.

    Thanks,

    - ReMouRN

    • 157 posts
    March 22, 2016 5:13 PM PDT

    May existing threads.  You can multi-box ... as long as you are manually playing each machine.  No botting software allowed.

    • 52 posts
    March 22, 2016 5:37 PM PDT

    Kilsin has stated multi boxing will be allowed. I still wholehearedly disagree with this stance. No one should be allowed to play more than one character at a time in order to bypass group content by themselves. Also, lets face it someone running more than 1 account at a time is going to automate certain things.

    • 1434 posts
    March 22, 2016 7:42 PM PDT

    Prominus said:

    Kilsin has stated multi boxing will be allowed. I still wholehearedly disagree with this stance. No one should be allowed to play more than one character at a time in order to bypass group content by themselves. Also, lets face it someone running more than 1 account at a time is going to automate certain things.

    Agreed. Boxing was the original p2w in real mmos with an emphasis on grouping. Would be great to see servers without boxing allowed.

    • 22 posts
    March 22, 2016 8:57 PM PDT
    I'd like to see servers that don't allow boxing if that is possible.
    • 288 posts
    March 22, 2016 11:09 PM PDT

    I'd also like to see servers with no boxing.

     

    • 563 posts
    March 22, 2016 11:52 PM PDT

    It's also been stated that it will be next to impossible to play multiple characters because of the skill/attention threshold of actually playing. Any form of botting/automating has been stated to be against EULA and will be bannable. So while it may technically be allowed, it just isn't feasible, it would be a severe handicap if anything and you probably won’t be able to successfully do much if anything.


    Rachael

    • 1473 posts
    March 23, 2016 12:22 AM PDT

    Rachael said:

    It's also been stated that it will be next to impossible to play multiple characters because of the skill/attention threshold of actually playing. Any form of botting/automating has been stated to be against EULA and will be bannable. So while it may technically be allowed, it just isn't feasible, it would be a severe handicap if anything and you probably won’t be able to successfully do much if anything.

    Rachael

    I think this is good news. People will always try and get around no botting rules but if you effectively make botting impossible through game mechanics you solve the problem without having to get into monitoring players all the time to make sure they are not botting.

    • 26 posts
    March 23, 2016 1:53 AM PDT

    Personally I have no problem with multi boxing as long as those doing so let a group know beforehand if they wish to join one as controlling 2 or more accounts at the same time can jeopardise a group.

    I personally at one time had 3 accounts on the go, I was not cheating and mostly it was at a slower pace than if I were in a good group, however often finding a good group was not easy and it was better than waiting. Yet when that good group came along I logged off the other 2 and joined straight up

    • 9115 posts
    March 23, 2016 2:38 AM PDT

    I am going to close this thread for a few reasons:

    1) This has been discussed to death and we have made our stance clear many times.

    2) Botting and boxing are completely different activities, botting is a program automatically playing a character which is cheating and boxing is a player controlling multiple characters manually or with keystroke mimic software like ISBoxer, which whether you agree with it or not, is allowed in most games, including EQ, EQ 2 and VG.

    Please do not start any new threads on boxing or botting etc. as they will also be closed.

    We will deal with any botting issues when we test/launch the game and as I stated above, we have made our stance on boxing clear, we will allow it but due to the way our combat works, it will be very hard to do.