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Alignment?

    • 75 posts
    November 4, 2015 4:31 AM PST

    I scratched my way through a few pages of this forum and couldn't see anything regarding whether alignment is going to be a factor in Pantheon.

    I like the idea of how you behave and your choices impacting how you are percieved and to some extent what you can do.  I do not think alignment is as simple as just choosing something at character creation.  I see alignment as more of a journey - something that is determined by the sum of your deeds.

    For example - at creation i may have an ideal that i want to generally good, helpful, only violent when i need to be and only when i believe its right to be so.  Lets call this 'good'.  However while questing/exploring, i do nothing that is actually in line with my ideal ie. i ignore NPC's cries for help as their cat is eaten by a wolf, and i spend my time mercilessly killing the local farmer's income providing geese because they drop eggs and i want a fry up.  Am i still good?

    I like an alignment that as much as it didn't work in SWTOR (due to the lack of 'grey/neutral') is built around key decisions and choices.  To add a kick, alignments could have milestones at which point they give something like increased reputation (for good or bad) increase ability power agianst creatures of opposite alignment etc

    I know this is not very structured but are there other thoughts ?

     

    TLDR - alignment is not a fixed state and is determined by the journey 


    This post was edited by Narben4 at November 4, 2015 4:53 AM PST
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    November 4, 2015 4:48 AM PST

    I agree it's a journey.

    • 71 posts
    November 4, 2015 6:34 AM PST

    I think this would be more closely tied to the faction discussion. Good and evil are subjective, and "alignments" per se should be more related to your faction choices too. A "good" human may still want to murder a "good" Skar. I can't see how a good>neutral>evil sliding scale would work in a world of many factions (if we get that, a la EQ1) that criss cross each other. Even a single race has many subfactions that clash or align within their own race, let alone others.

     

    Human wizards in their main city may hate a faction of elven priests, while the human paladins love them. The warrior caste of Ogres may hate a splinter faction of Ogre shamans. The original Freeport in EQ1 was a great example of many facets vying for control, even if they weren't all outwardly aggressive toward one another.

    Good and evil shouldn't really be a thing. It's far too shallow.

    • 999 posts
    November 4, 2015 1:31 PM PST

    There were a couple threads in the past about alignment - one where Joppa (Developer) had responded to - I'm not sure if alignment is still in the works or not though.  I've pasted them below:

     

    1.  http://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/1544/third-letter-quot-a-night-of-five-voices-part-2-quot/view/post_id/17287

     

    2.  http://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2088/when-is-role-playing-not-role-playing/view/post_id/27633

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    November 4, 2015 3:41 PM PST

    Raidan said:

    There were a couple threads in the past about alignment - one where Joppa (Developer) had responded to - I'm not sure if alignment is still in the works or not though.  I've pasted them below:

     

    1.  http://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/1544/third-letter-quot-a-night-of-five-voices-part-2-quot/view/post_id/17287

     

    2.  http://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2088/when-is-role-playing-not-role-playing/view/post_id/27633

    Thank you Raidan :)

    • 75 posts
    November 6, 2015 3:54 AM PST

    thanks guys and all i can say is yummy - but like a good chinese takeaway i will need more to keep me sated.  :)