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Server list - WAY too huge

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    • 86 posts
    December 8, 2024 5:39 PM PST

    First - thank you for server list way ahead of time.

    Every MMO should have done that last 25 years. so simple to do and let friends / guilds / etc coordinate who can't log in all exactly the same time / phone call instant message. Big Win there.

    Big Loss : there are way, way too many servers coming online to choose from at the start. This has doomed every MMO that came out with way too sparse of population I've seen it at least 5x the last 20 years - eg Vanguard. shut down how many servers how fast ? ya starting areas are crowded for a week, at most. last month it was nigh impossible to find the class / level you needed for the THREE zones available with only 5 servers. when a server was "red" (full) then maybe you could do "ok" finding groups / making one with classes needed. Now there will be SIX zones and 20+ servers ?

    you guys are bonkers for starting with more than 8 servers and thinking enough people will be online to make grouping and levelling fun or possible.

    Mark my words, within a month a different decision will be made (or have to be made) or this is going to end VERY fast with nobody playing because nobody can get groups and server count drastically reducing.

    There aren't thousands (hundreds of thousands) of players looking to jump in like path of exile.

    I really , really suggest you rethink 20+ servers and bring U.S. east / west coast down to 3 each.


    This post was edited by Euther at December 8, 2024 5:40 PM PST
    • 936 posts
    December 9, 2024 1:26 AM PST

    Even now, even when Pantheon is opening up to the wider world, we still get posts saying "you are wrong...".

    We don't have VR's figures, you have no idea what the uptake is going to be. Joppa has stated that it a pretty simple exercise for them to spin up and down servers as and when they need. Surely it is better to have too many and spin down than too few and spin up. No one, and I mean no one has a 100% idea of what is needed, but VR have the best idea and I am sure they will have discussed the best route forward, a lot. What is really "bonkers" is to get out a crystal ball and guess. What is really "bonkers" is to have too few and not have people able to get into game at all. What is bonkers is to have a queue of 100s of people waiting to get in.

    I really, really suggest that VR spin up what they think they need based on their figures than listen to a finger in the air guess.

    • 30 posts
    December 9, 2024 11:11 AM PST

    I think too many servers is better than not enough. If like they said it's easy to spin them up/down as needed. We don't know how many players each server can service. We have no idea how many people will play the game on launch. I guess VR does know how many pledges there are. So that gives them a baseline. No idea how many will buy the Steam version. It's going to be interesting on launch day for sure.

    • 158 posts
    December 9, 2024 11:23 AM PST

    I do agree most mmos have too many servers wow half were never used. 

    I assume ill be either trying the same server as ive been playing on  or ill take the top few listed id like a medium to high pop realm. 

    Im just hoping ill have character slots to try multiple classes  like all of them lol. 

    • 43 posts
    December 10, 2024 1:17 AM PST

    Where is such a list of servers? There will be a roleplaying favored server?

    • 30 posts
    December 10, 2024 7:32 AM PST

    Here is a list of the servers. It was posted on Discord. Put it here in case you don't have Discord. Not sure if there is a Roleplaying server.

     

    List of Initial Servers
    =======================

    Western United States
    =====================
    Aellos
    Havensong
    Khadassa
    Korcera
    Lychandrell
    Ossari
    Runaway Reef
    Syronai
    The Sacred Six
    Wovarren


    Eastern United States
    =====================
    Aevos
    Axecutor
    Black Moon
    Dark Trade
    Ermos
    Khaga
    Lucent Tree
    Revenant
    Stormona
    Veil of Azeris


    Central-EU
    =====================
    Whispering Lands


    Oceanic
    =====================
    Bakamel

    • 903 posts
    December 10, 2024 4:38 PM PST
    I'm also concerned though I have no way of knowing how many players they estimate. I've always strongly preferred crowded servers since not being able to find groups is my #1 frustration with MMOs. And I often don't get to play until past peak population hours. When we were allowed to server-hop, Broken Maw was by far the most populated and the only server I was able to find groups on (outside peak hours).

    My plan is to wait long enough to get a feel for which server is the most populated and then choose that one.
    • 127 posts
    December 11, 2024 5:24 AM PST

    My opposite concern is only having one option for EU players. I would be shocked if the NA:Euro ratio is 20:1 but maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully VR have access to this information.

    • 753 posts
    December 11, 2024 7:48 AM PST

    ^ That would be my concern too! The EU server was fairly well populated in the test already, with EA I would expect a lot more EU players. But if required, I guess more servers can be created quickly.

    • 6 posts
    December 13, 2024 12:56 PM PST

    What is the difference between server0 and server1? Will I be able to group with people from both servers?

    • 30 posts
    December 13, 2024 2:27 PM PST

    They are shards. You character and items exist on both as long as the server name is the same. If you want to group with certain people/friends they need to be on the same shard. For example both on server0. 

    • 6 posts
    December 13, 2024 2:46 PM PST

    Thank you. 

    • 1436 posts
    December 14, 2024 5:29 AM PST

    hmm where's teh pvp servers?

    • 30 posts
    December 14, 2024 7:51 AM PST

    There are no PvP servers right now. Only PvE. They have PvP server planned for the future. 

    • 17 posts
    December 15, 2024 7:27 PM PST

    I know its only day 3 but I fear the OP may be right.    I'm having trouble finding a group and hardly anyone is LFG server wide.  Ill run by some popular newb camps and nobody is camping them.  Last thing you want to do is take someone $40 and not have a good MMO experience with nobody around, especially when grouping is the best way to grind out some XP.

    I bet BlackMoon and Havensong is a blast right now!  

    • 12 posts
    December 15, 2024 10:12 PM PST

    On BlackMoon myself. Got to level 12 (cleric), always someone is on and able to play. Our guild has constant 20 ppl on throughout the day and late into the evening. This game has been a blast for sure. I don’t blame them for starting servers big, they have data that these forum people do not. 


    This post was edited by Higherho at December 15, 2024 10:13 PM PST
    • 43 posts
    December 16, 2024 5:51 AM PST

    I thought it was too many servers as well but I was wrong. I saw over the weekend that all servers were half full or more (and some of those were split over shard 0 and 1). They can always pare it back later but right now it seems fine and *hopefully* the servers will get busier as more people see the positive Steam reviews and give it a shot. Also you can imagine this will only magnify as they release more content.

     

    • 1 posts
    December 17, 2024 6:12 AM PST

    with shards we dont need the huge list of servers, black moon and its shards have been more than enough for keeping most of the population together and forming groups, its dangerous for niche small pop mmos like this one to have too many servers that spread everyone thin especially a game that relies on players grouping and not soloing

    • 17 posts
    December 17, 2024 7:31 AM PST
    For testing purposes and giving new players a social experience What is the reasoning to not have fewer servers but just keep spooling up instances of that server like Black Moon? With that said my server was orange for the first last night, and the town had a lot of activity which was pleasant to see.
    • 64 posts
    December 18, 2024 7:57 AM PST

    Black Moon has not been without its problems already.  New Characters were restricted Sunday night & Tuesday, presumably from overcrowding.

    • 56 posts
    December 19, 2024 8:59 AM PST

    I think the list is just right -- whenever I get on, Havensong is at 2 --- and first is full --

    Black Moon is always full --- and others are often at 2 also ... don't see a problem -- 


    This post was edited by Einelinea at December 19, 2024 8:59 AM PST
    • 936 posts
    December 19, 2024 3:34 PM PST
    I find it amusing when I see posts like the OP where it's easy to say "VR you got x wrong and here is why..."

    Then, after it is proved that VR got it right, there is seldom a retraction. Seldom a "nope, i was wrong and you were right..."

    I'm sure something else will happen along for the doomsters to get their teeth into before the fact.

    Such is social media.
    • 17 posts
    December 19, 2024 5:02 PM PST
    I'm not sure about that. Two nights in a row can't form a group, can't find a group. The only real solution is join a better server. Luckily progress wasted doesn't really matter..
    • 936 posts
    December 21, 2024 5:11 AM PST

    Well I have had no issues.

    • 4 posts
    December 21, 2024 7:24 AM PST

    Black Moon is sucking up most the playerbase of the game... and its because the Devs play on Black Moon :/