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Alt Code spelling name characters

    • 258 posts
    October 27, 2021 2:03 PM PDT

    dorotea said:

    I don't even *understand* the question though I had a few guesses what types of codes the OP might mean. To me "dope" means a bad thing that hurts users and their friends and family and "azz" is a mildly off-color word with the letter s replaced by the letter z for totally incomprehensible reasons so I am most definitely too old to appreciate it.  This comment being intended to focus on changes in language and slang not to say the people that use these terms are in any way inferior to those of us that see them and gape in disapproving disbelief.

     

    "You'd be surprised how many people would like it."

     

    In this you are entirely correct. I would be shocked and flabbergated if the percentage of people that liked it was even a measurable percentage of the people that hated, abhored, abominated and detested seeing it in character names.

     

    Example: Ròjó

    • 258 posts
    October 27, 2021 2:07 PM PDT

    BigBadAzz1 said:

    dorotea said:

    I don't even *understand* the question though I had a few guesses what types of codes the OP might mean. To me "dope" means a bad thing that hurts users and their friends and family and "azz" is a mildly off-color word with the letter s replaced by the letter z for totally incomprehensible reasons so I am most definitely too old to appreciate it.  This comment being intended to focus on changes in language and slang not to say the people that use these terms are in any way inferior to those of us that see them and gape in disapproving disbelief.

     

    "You'd be surprised how many people would like it."

     

    In this you are entirely correct. I would be shocked and flabbergated if the percentage of people that liked it was even a measurable percentage of the people that hated, abhored, abominated and detested seeing it in character names.

     

    Example: Ròjó

    Or example: Ñ

    • 2419 posts
    October 27, 2021 3:08 PM PDT

    BigBadAzz1 said:

    Example: Ròjó

    Or example: Ñ

    Yes, so to my point you're talking only about diacritical (accent) marks above letters. That I would have no problem accepting as it would give the reader a better idea of how the name would be pronounced.  It could be useful if, for example, the phonemes used by different races were 'non-american' english. 

    It's all the other garbage, the SHIFT+number and whatnot that is not needed as it really has no place at all in a high fantasy setting. We're going to get First Name, Last Name and, possibly Title (someday) and that's about it.

    EDIT: For those that don't know, diacritial marks are the Grave, Acute , Circumflex (these three from French and other romance based languages), Tilde (mostly seen in Spanish), Umlaut/Dieresis (from German and other languges of that foundation) and Cedilla (Spanish and French).


    This post was edited by Vandraad at October 27, 2021 3:11 PM PDT
    • 1921 posts
    October 27, 2021 5:49 PM PDT

    IMO:

    If I never, ever, ever have to type it?  Bring on the Unicode.  Otherwise?  a-z only, thanks.
    Within our guild, we don't care, because we just use voice 99% of the time anyway, but this is a big deal for people who aren't going to be doing that.

    While there are certainly shortcuts, associations, personal translations, whatever you want to call it to take an un-typeable name and make it something I can refer to like /t person1, where person1 = Ròjó , I wouldn't want to be the person responsible for implementing the input sanitization for such a system. :)  It's a hole with no bottom.

    First, you need to support a-z.
    Then you need to support latin diacritics.
    Then you need to support non-latin.
    Then you need to support non-latin diacritics.
    Then you need to support non-phonetic.  Ideographs/ideograms, logograms, pictographs, more.
    Then you need to support regional dialects of non-phonetics.
    Then you need to support combinations of all of the above, potentially on the same line?
    Sure..  let's do that MORE!

    • 258 posts
    October 27, 2021 7:08 PM PDT

    Vandraad said:

    BigBadAzz1 said:

    Example: Ròjó

    Or example: Ñ

    Yes, so to my point you're talking only about diacritical (accent) marks above letters. That I would have no problem accepting as it would give the reader a better idea of how the name would be pronounced.  It could be useful if, for example, the phonemes used by different races were 'non-american' english. 

    It's all the other garbage, the SHIFT+number and whatnot that is not needed as it really has no place at all in a high fantasy setting. We're going to get First Name, Last Name and, possibly Title (someday) and that's about it.

    EDIT: For those that don't know, diacritial marks are the Grave, Acute , Circumflex (these three from French and other romance based languages), Tilde (mostly seen in Spanish), Umlaut/Dieresis (from German and other languges of that foundation) and Cedilla (Spanish and French).

    Very valid point and I concurr!

    • 3852 posts
    October 28, 2021 7:25 AM PDT

    I agree entirely with Vandraad. I wasn't referring to diacritical notation in my less than approving comments.

    As long as we can send messages to people with such names without having to type them out.

    • 808 posts
    October 28, 2021 8:16 AM PDT

    BigBadAzz1 said:

    Fulton said:

    Everyones names should just be bob, and their character ID #... Bob00001, Bob00002, Bob00003.... ;)

    Or we just all go by numbers. It would be like the old days of remembering your friends phones numbers. :P

     

    I'll just let other comments that's not related to this topic go as there's way too many that I'm too tired right now to answer and reply to. But on the other hand. @Fulton are you a chill azz Cleric named Fullton that used to be from Final Empire? If so, How ya doing, bro!? If not, no worries. I'm just chillin and I hope y'all have a great day!

    Sorry, that was not me. :)

    • 254 posts
    October 28, 2021 11:10 AM PDT

    EDIT: Sorry, for some reason I missed a lot of replies that made mine completely redundant


    This post was edited by Ruinar at October 28, 2021 11:12 AM PDT
    • 258 posts
    October 28, 2021 3:22 PM PDT

    dorotea said:

    I agree entirely with Vandraad. I wasn't referring to diacritical notation in my less than approving comments.

    As long as we can send messages to people with such names without having to type them out.

    This all in a nut shell. Thank you.