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Which Tank does most DPS? Thoughts?

    • 14 posts
    March 28, 2021 10:00 AM PDT

    I am curious on what the community thinks about which Tank class will on average will do a little more consistent DPS? I do realize there will be some niche scenarios where one tank type will do more DPS, i.e. Paladin vs. undead but curious one taking all scendarios based on what we know and understanding there will be more tweaks.

    • 1964 posts
    March 28, 2021 10:17 AM PDT

     I expect DL will do the most damage as a tank class (except paly vs undead as you mentioned). 

    Just to be clear, I don't think you should go into it with the mindset that the amount of damage any tank class does will matter much.  I think you worded it well when you said "a little more consistent DPS".

    • 1330 posts
    March 28, 2021 11:04 AM PDT

    Phaiden said:

    I am curious on what the community thinks about which Tank class will on average will do a little more consistent DPS? I do realize there will be some niche scenarios where one tank type will do more DPS, i.e. Paladin vs. undead but curious one taking all scendarios based on what we know and understanding there will be more tweaks.

    Are you asking which tank will do the most DPS as a normal part of tanking?

    or which tank will do the most DPS if filling a DPS role in a group?

    I think the answer could be significantly different depending on the situation.

    • 73 posts
    March 28, 2021 5:46 PM PDT

    The dire lord does seem like it would have an edge over the other two, or at least more potential through its abilities, but with greater risk of death when overcommitting to the full extent of its abilities. 


    This post was edited by Leevolen at March 28, 2021 5:47 PM PDT
    • 14 posts
    March 28, 2021 6:32 PM PDT
    Jothany, you bring up a good point. I was thinking from a tanking role. And yeah DL does seem to have an edge because of melee and their dots.
    • 14 posts
    March 28, 2021 6:34 PM PDT
    I am still leaning towards the Warrior though. That active mitigation seems great but concerned about weak DPS compared to the other classes
    • 1104 posts
    March 30, 2021 4:10 PM PDT

    Jothany said:

    or which tank will do the most DPS if filling a DPS role in a group?

    I think the answer could be significantly different depending on the situation.



    This ^

    I think in a group where you have one of each tank, the DL will be assigned DPS duty more often than not... and because of this, most DLs will likely focus more on building for DPS.

    But with all things considered equally (gear, skill and desire to be DPS and NOT counting AoE encounters/damage) the Warrior will likely be higher raw consistent "DPS". The Paladin will have cleave and AoE abilities while the DL will be able to spread DoTs in an AoE. 

    I agree with Phaiden and say that the warrior will likely be higher "DPS" because I'd be willing to bet that the warrior's skills and attribute scaling will be higher than the DL and Paladin considering they don't rely on spells to generate threat and mitigate damage, but instead raw properties.  This was the case in EQ as well... where an extra 5-10 skill points (like some of the racial passives) were the equivalent to an extra 1-2 levels... which made a significant difference in damage output and mitigation when compared directly to other classes' skill ranks.  This (along with skill rating of things like double and tripple attack or dual weild) also seperated the DPS classes like Monk and Rogue from the Warrior and Bard.  

    But that is just assuming that the warrior will have higher skill caps.

    Edit: I would also add that if someone wants to be melee DPS I would recommend Ranger, Monk or Rogue instead of a "Tank" though.  It's a safe bet that none of the tanks will hold a candle to those classes.


    This post was edited by Darch at March 30, 2021 5:01 PM PDT
    • 475 posts
    April 2, 2021 12:21 PM PDT
    Don't forget that the tank who's best able to hold aggro may end up contributing more DPS by proxy since the glass cannon DPS characters could play more aggressively.

    Also, I suspect that the controversial limited action set (LAS) design will allow for better DPS since the tank will need to pick a role. The DPS abilities won't need to be as weakened since they are also balanced by taking up slots.
    • 315 posts
    April 2, 2021 8:50 PM PDT
    The dire lord's should have the highest DPS in general sence the will have the worsted ac as well as being the only tank dps class based in part around duel wield. Both the ear and paly have skills based around a
    • 79 posts
    April 5, 2021 10:50 PM PDT

    I believe it will be the Warrior as they are expected to have the most versatility.

    In previous games the Paladin will have resist against pague/evil/undead attacks with corresponding benefits agains mobs that use those abilities, and the DL will mostlikely be resistent against magical based attacks such as direct magical attacks, charm, fear, spell like abilites from creatures.  I am also under the impression that they will chew through light/no armor mobs such as casters quickly and probably do alot of damage to mobs with low magical/fear resistance.

    Then the warriors will have the rest.  The ability to handle single target massive hits from big mobs and mitigate damage from groups, then inkind be able to return that level of damage correspondingly back to them through stances or builds.

    • 315 posts
    April 7, 2021 6:21 PM PDT
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    • 25 posts
    May 17, 2021 12:12 PM PDT

    I have had an internal debate about what to play for a long time class-wise. I constantly waffle between melee dps and tank. This is solely because there's not a strength-based "smash them with an axe" style melee dps offered for launch, and I typically don't enjoy the dexterity-based melee dps aesthetic as much (although I'm considering Ranger). Thus, I contemplate instead trying out a tank class until such a melee dps is added later on. However, in trying out a tank class, I often wonder whether any of the tanks will be capable of actually filling a dps role in a group. Given the nature of the ability system, I wonder if a tank could invest in damage-oriented skills to become sort of a tanky-dps that can offtank better than, say, a monk or something, but will also do less damage (though still respectable enough damage) than a dps that can offtank (unless choosing to use leather armor or something for the damage stats at the cost of mitigation). It has been food for thought for me for a while now.

    If it were possible, I would consider being a Dire Lord or Warrior or whatever seems like it might do the most damage, and then be the party's "oh crap the tank is about to die" backup tank while still doing some pretty decent damage. The nature of an offtank needing to "save" a main tank in this way also makes me think using a Dire Lord for such purposes may not work well considering the nature of their taunt buillding up over time rather than being snap aggro. Thus, I'm wondering if maybe Warrior might serve this purpose the best. I don't really know how much damage Warriors are intended to be able to do, but if it's possible to specialize them for damage dealing while being an offtank if needed, I think that might be the avenue I'd like to pursue.


    This post was edited by Vivere at May 17, 2021 12:28 PM PDT