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Scenario - Group Boss Fight

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    February 11, 2021 3:32 AM PST

    Scenario - Group Boss Fight - You have a Solid Tank, 2x Good Healers a beast of a DPS and capable CC - who are you inviting to fill the last spot and why? #MMORPG#CommunityMatters

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    February 11, 2021 5:33 AM PST

    Definitely a bard.

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    February 11, 2021 6:17 AM PST

    MOAR DOTS!!!

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    February 11, 2021 6:19 AM PST
    Another dps. Just so the fight goes quicker. Be it someone who nukes or DoTs or a melee.
    • 117 posts
    February 11, 2021 6:24 AM PST

    Some one that needs the Kill. A lower geared Dps  anybody in guild that wants to join if we got the fight why not toss in some one that needs some help. Why do we have 2 healers are they under geared, is one under geared and needs the kill? Is the tank under geared? healers are always so rare just want to know why we have 2 in one group are these the only 5  on in guild? why are we killing the boss is it for a drop orr quest flag could change who I invite.

     As some one that spent alot of time working with other officers to get guild groups set up to get people quest flags / drops gear camps/ levels /AAs  these are the ? that run in my head when I see this.

    There is so much missing from this Scenario to make a choice  what classes what utility do we have with these classes.


    This post was edited by Vixx at February 11, 2021 6:52 AM PST
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    February 11, 2021 6:47 AM PST

    Whoever wants in last spot .

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    February 11, 2021 7:42 AM PST

    If victory is assured and I know someone that needs the encounter - definitely what Vixx says.

    If it is simply a matter of how to win the fight - definitely what Mordecai says.

    If there isn't a plethora of people looking to join and able to get there quickly - definitely what Shea says.

    Commital, aren't I?

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    February 11, 2021 8:03 AM PST

    DPS / utility depending on how hard the dungeon is.

    • 46 posts
    February 11, 2021 8:10 AM PST

    I would invite a friend.

    A friend with weed is a friend indeed!

    • 2419 posts
    February 11, 2021 8:58 AM PST

    Kilsin said:

    Scenario - Group Boss Fight - You have a Solid Tank, 2x Good Healers a beast of a DPS and capable CC - who are you inviting to fill the last spot and why? #MMORPG#CommunityMatters

    Another melee DPS.  Kill it faster is always a solid strategy.

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    February 11, 2021 9:46 AM PST

    Definately another DPS of some kind.

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    February 11, 2021 9:59 AM PST
    2 healers virtually necessitates 2 dps for balance assuming normal mmo balancing.

    1 healer, 1 tank, and 1 cc can leave the rest of the party very debatable anything goes, it is an ideal starting point. Having two healers weights the party into needing two dps to be efficient.

    I say this assuming the healers and tanks won't be competent dps and there is no zone specific utility the party desperately needs.

    You don't want a puller or a third tank if you have two tanks, it is all about the balance. It works the same for healers.
    • 2138 posts
    February 11, 2021 10:30 AM PST

    Me , Ruz, Cyl, Jeyna (*dance*), and mendath, although he got wierd after a while, one time when I mentioned smiley faced spiders in hawaii and he said his brother was from hawaii and never saw them - as if  somehow after all this time he was gaslighted as to my integrity somehow by an outside person- I suspected it was loklan but i'm not sure. Loklan always seemed.... he was the 6th and then at times then he would get another before I came on and block me out- or so it seemed coincidentally.  But there are spiders in hawaii that have smiley faces on their backs- and they are yellow, too. Look it up!

    Anyways

    Invite anyone~! who cares if they are 20 levels lower, we did. We were so tight we could show off at times. We ended up getting a reputation, a good one. We might have been interested in guilds but spam invites were not our thing, we would have liked to group with a number of members of one guild and then spin off like 2 or 3 and then regroup and share notes. we called ourselves Gy....im saving that for pantheon, might be a cool guild name. Had our own chat channel. 

    But yeah, anyone, if they looked lonely we would say Come with us!, Sometimes we would get tells from others we know had good reps or from uber guilds that pleaded to get out of their PuG's and join us because it wasn't working out for them at the moment. 

    The icing on the cake? is after we get used to each others styles and the new person learns there is no such thing as a bad pull with us- when they say: "can I try something...?" or "i've always wanted to see what this does"  That's awesome.

     

    • 256 posts
    February 11, 2021 12:38 PM PST

    This is really hard to answer because the terms beast Dps and capable CC are broad terms to the point that almost any class probably fill that last spot.

    Personally given this general scenario I would fill the last spot with a DPS/utility class just to balance out the general roles, but in-game it would really depend on the specific group comp, the location/mob type we were fighting, and group output/class balance. 

     


    This post was edited by FatedEmperor at February 11, 2021 12:39 PM PST
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    February 11, 2021 6:36 PM PST
    I would invite a third healer so that we have three people to blame when we fail.
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    February 11, 2021 9:47 PM PST

    Clearly most the optimal answer for efficiency is another DPS. However, my answer is, who cares? Let anyone that wants to join, join.

    Once you have a 1 tank, 1 healer and 1 dps, fill the other roles with anything. Let’s not forget that everyone can inflict damage to some degree. Even with 2 healers, 1 of them might find they don’t need to back up heal and they end up attacking. We need to stop having the mindset that we can only engage a boss with a perfect group. It alienates to many other players and it discourages group play. Which is what most MMOs are lacking today. If we fail, we fail. Try again later.

     

     

     

     


    This post was edited by Sweety at February 11, 2021 9:48 PM PST
    • 150 posts
    February 12, 2021 3:12 AM PST

    A ranger, to keep the healers on their toes and also so the group knows if, when, and where nameds have spawned using track.

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    February 12, 2021 10:51 AM PST

    Kilsin said:

    Scenario - Group Boss Fight - You have a Solid Tank, 2x Good Healers a beast of a DPS and capable CC - who are you inviting to fill the last spot and why? #MMORPG#CommunityMatters

    Since it's not defined what the CC is (could be a bard). Also does the encounter consist of a group of bosses or is it just the group that fights one boss?

    Overall I would welcome anyone willing to join. If we're solid enough with 5, the 6th is welcome to add flavour and enjoyment to the group experience.

    Community matters and so does the importance of getting new contacts in the game and supporting a good attitude towards people you don't know yet.

    • 531 posts
    February 12, 2021 12:54 PM PST

    1) I'd invite Joppa and you know why ;-) 

    2) Any guild member that wants in.

    3) But if we are talking strictly about classes then either some support (buffer/debuffer) with some offensive dots or pure dps.

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    February 12, 2021 1:26 PM PST

    A Ranger, to eat the first Death Touch.

    • 76 posts
    February 15, 2021 3:59 AM PST

    Kilsin said:

    Scenario - Group Boss Fight - You have a Solid Tank, 2x Good Healers a beast of a DPS and capable CC - who are you inviting to fill the last spot and why? #MMORPG#CommunityMatters

    I'd invite a third summoner.

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    February 15, 2021 2:45 PM PST

    Either a second dps or an offtank, depending on the dynamics of the fight.

    • 88 posts
    February 15, 2021 3:23 PM PST

    Extra dps of some kind.  To me it doesnt matter if it is ranged or melee, unless an encouter was so difficult that the group would wipe using only ranged or only melee dps.  I chose dps to speed up the fight a bit so things dont feel sloggy with only 1 dps.

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    February 15, 2021 4:13 PM PST

    I'm inviting someone who is FUN to hang out with.  That's always more important to me than how fast a boss dies...and sometimes even more important than IF a boss dies.

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    February 21, 2021 5:49 AM PST

    Aayden said:

    MOAR DOTS!!!

    DPS makes things die faster, which saves time.