Alexander said:I type I agree all the time, I've never been corrected..
I think we should need to give written feedback. Say we agree if we do, no harm at all there. We won't be kicked off the forums. Implementing "like" systems contributes to a weird passive aggressive climate in threads..
That might be your impression, I've never felt it.
Zorkon said:Alexander said:I type I agree all the time, I've never been corrected..
I think we should need to give written feedback. Say we agree if we do, no harm at all there. We won't be kicked off the forums. Implementing "like" systems contributes to a weird passive aggressive climate in threads..
That might be your impression, I've never felt it.
Me either. In the Battlefield forums (where things regularly get heated) the like system just lets you see when opinions are popular. That's it. It's much more likely to get aggressive when people feel they have to leave actual comments in support or disagreement.
I'd quite like a 'dislike' counter too, but that's considered too 'negative', I suppose.
I don't like the system in Reddit where downvotes 'cancel' upvotes and see comments disappear into oblivion, though. Now *that* is a weird forum battle 'game' that stifles opinion and discussion.
Deathstroke said: Just say no to like buttons and little gimmicks like them. It just creates a competitive environment where people are fishing for likes. It means nothing, yet people get addicted to it and it does very little to add to the discussion. I post very little, but if I have something to say, then I will post. I dislike the whole emoji, like buttons, thumbs up that lead to lack of true in depth discussions.
Agreed. I would be in favor of getting rid of post count for a similar reason. All of us who have been around for awhile know who contributes without the need for a post count.
In my opinion, like/dislike buttons are just another communicatoon shortcut that we don’t need. If you like or dislike a post, you have two choices; leave a comment that adds to the discussion or don’t. If its something you feel strongly about, its worthy of a well thought out response.
philo said:
I think we just disagree.
Seeing 5 people simply respond "welcome" to my intro post and then seeing the same on others intro post...and then finding out people might be using it as a way to boost their post count wouldn't make me feel very welcome at all. If anything I would question the motives of those who responded. I don't think your "ghost forum" impression is a concern.
I'd rather have 1 person who actually responded in a thoughtful way than a dozen people who responded "welcome".
But we can agree to disagree.
First of all, nobody cares about post count. It has no meaning, tangible effect, or significance. To be critical of people who say hello to others who are excited to join the community is beyond ridiculous. Whether I say “Welcome” or expand with something related to their intro, is completely fine. I can’t imagine anyone who introduces themself there looking at ten or so people welcoming them and thinking this is disingenuous. It’s like walking into a party and being upset that people are coming up to you to say hi, shake your hand, and continue on their way. Yes, if someone engages in more detail that is great, but fake “welcomes” for post count? Come on.
@Therek, I agree and disagree with statements you made. I absolutely agree with your comment about the "welcome" spam on the welcome forums to simply increase their post count but have very little input. What I disagree with you on (although I can understand your reasoning, but simply disagree) is that you feel that a "like" and/or "dislike" button would be communication shortcuts. Similar to the "welcome" spam being nothing more than a means to increase post count, requiring feedback (without an agree/disagree) button is an innacurate count of people that may agree or disagree with an idea. MANY people avoid sharing their feedback due to fear of people disagreeing with their opinion/fear of conflict. VR is missing a majority of people's opinions. If a person REALLY has a strong opinion on something, they will type it out, but if a person reads something and simply 'nods' in agreement, or frowns in disagreement, they may not go through the trouble of getting into a forum debate. Facebook is notorious for this because they understand that controversy creates chatter (this is why they have a "like" button but no "dislike" button - it forces people to argue/debate when you can't simply "dislike" something and on the flip side, it forces those opposed to conflict to be silent and never voice their opinion).
Case in point... SEVERAL people will read this; some will agree, some will disagree... maybe 2 or 3 will respond.
Therek said:First of all, nobody cares about post count. It has no meaning, tangible effect, or significance. ... Yes, if someone engages in more detail that is great, but fake “welcomes” for post count? Come on.
I agree with you that post count has no significance but to say nobody cares shows a lack of experience on this forum. There are definitely people who care.
So much so that certain, active, forum members have bragged about their post count on various forums. It is what it is. I would prefer if post count wasn't a thing but to say "no one cares" is just wrong.
philo said:Therek said:First of all, nobody cares about post count. It has no meaning, tangible effect, or significance. ... Yes, if someone engages in more detail that is great, but fake “welcomes” for post count? Come on.
I agree with you that post count has no significance but to say nobody cares shows a lack of experience on this forum. There are definitely people who care.
So much so that certain, active, forum members have bragged about their post count on various forums. It is what it is. I would prefer if post count wasn't a thing but to say "no one cares" is just wrong.
Might it have been more accurate to have said "nobody Relevant cares" ?
Yes those that think post count means something obviously care. It means absolutely nothing to me, I'll call BS on the guy with 3000 post as quick as I'll call it on the guy with 100 post. And give the guy with 100 post just as much consideration.
Who really matters, who is "Relevant" is VR, the devs, and you really think they're that petty that they give this 3000 post count bad suggestion is more important or valid than the 10 post count good suggestion? I would bet my money they are looking at the merits of the suggestion itself and ignoring the post count.
But no one really should care - unless the topic is historical and the person with 2 million posts is more likely to have been here when the events in question occurred than the person with two posts.
Or unless someone is doing something they shouldn't and if they have 2 posts they probably don't know what is considered proper here. No excuse for them if they have 2 million.
I have been known to toss a "welcome" out. I assume that most people appreciate it even if it is just one word. Where someone says something about themself I try to refer to that in any welcome post.