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Should Inactive Accounts be Offered at Ingame Auction

    • 1095 posts
    July 18, 2019 2:10 PM PDT

    Should Inactive account be offered as ingame auctions like real world storage lockers. 

    This Includes banned accounts.

    Why or why not?

     


    This post was edited by Aich at July 18, 2019 2:18 PM PDT
    • 411 posts
    July 18, 2019 2:20 PM PDT

    I wouldn't want to be forced to continue a sub even if I wanted to take a break from the game. I'm also just staunchly in opposition to RMT for P2W reasons.

    • 521 posts
    July 18, 2019 3:08 PM PDT

    I woudnt want the account to be up for auction, or sale since we wont have auctions, but if enough time has elasped, maybe 2 years, then the items or Mats atleast could be sold.

    • 1456 posts
    July 18, 2019 3:11 PM PDT

    No

     

    For one, somebody can always come back and reclaim an account years later, I did!

    Any other situation is simply PTW, no thanks.


    This post was edited by Zorkon at July 18, 2019 10:32 PM PDT
    • 2138 posts
    July 18, 2019 3:11 PM PDT

    Well, I liked being able to come back to my account after 10 years and still see all my old stuff, even if it was pixels. Says something for all that silicone valley security storage capability. maybe add some blockchain to it for ultra security, but thenm again I was just a normal person.

    • 1095 posts
    July 18, 2019 3:34 PM PDT

    Manouk said:

    Well, I liked being able to come back to my account after 10 years and still see all my old stuff, even if it was pixels. Says something for all that silicone valley security storage capability. maybe add some blockchain to it for ultra security, but thenm again I was just a normal person.

    Blockchain ha.


    This post was edited by Aich at July 18, 2019 3:35 PM PDT
    • 2419 posts
    July 18, 2019 4:00 PM PDT

    Aich said:

    Should Inactive account be offered as ingame auctions like real world storage lockers. 

    This Includes banned accounts.

    Why or why not?

     

    No. The account belongs to me inperpetuity.  It is not VRs to sell.  Besides, what is the definition of 'inactive account' in the first place?

    • 159 posts
    July 18, 2019 4:20 PM PDT

     

      Nope. Real life happens. I bought the game I pledge to help with the development of the game and I'd be highly irked if my account was taken from me because I was absent for an undetermined amount of time due to real life.

    • 1247 posts
    July 18, 2019 4:39 PM PDT

    It seems like it could be complex and problematic. Banned accounts are probably best banned.


    This post was edited by Syrif at July 18, 2019 8:34 PM PDT
    • 413 posts
    July 18, 2019 5:09 PM PDT

    Hey yeah...and guilds too!

    • 394 posts
    July 18, 2019 9:57 PM PDT

    lol like anyone would play a game where your account and gear gets sold because you wanna take a few months off while waiting for an expansion... 

    i pledged, i paid for the game, I paid for the time to get the stuff on MY account. it belongs to Me. not VR or anyone else. 

    I went back to EQ after being gone for 8-10 years. Picked up right where I left off. i now use that same account i started in 1999 to play on a TLP server while I wait 3 years for this game. 

     

    My Cleric still had all my gear that I EARNED. it had all my plat. i was able to group as soon as my UI and hotbuttons were set up. my /played time on my Xegony main is Years

    • 238 posts
    July 19, 2019 2:11 AM PDT

    No, they shouldn't and there are many reasons why.

    1. Real-life happens and inactive accounts can become active again when life and situations permit. Players shouldn't be penalized for real-life circumstances that may or may not be out of their control. 
    2. Going back to the returning player concept, if accounts are auctioned off this hurts the overall play-ability of the game. People are also less likely to recommend the game to friends or family should this be the case which damages the health of the game and also hurts the player community. 
    3. Buying accounts could be considered pay to win (or borderline pay to win). Whether or not the currency used is IRL or in-game money buying a whole account is usually aginst most terms if agreement. Giving players the ability to buy complete characters, or even the armor sets/ items on that accounts characters does not promote player growth and development. I understand that most items are subject to free trade and thus can be sold on the AH. However, buying one item at a time vs buying a whole geared character/ stocked inventory is a different concept.
    4. (Personal reason) I believe people should have to work for what they have and items/gear should be earned. I am ok with the concept of buying items off players as high-end gear is set at a fairly high price range and players have to spend just as much time (if not more) taking the time to farm for the money.

    I do have a personal opinion on banned accounts. I think that any account that is subject to a permaban should have all characters deleted so that the name of those characters are freed.

    On the same note, I think that inactive accounts that have gone inactive for longer than a 2 year period should have characters flagged for renaming and free up the names that are in use by those characters. I don't think that it is healthy to penalize the active player base, and if someone has gone seriously inactive to the point that it doesn't look like they are returning, then those character names should be made available to the public again. 

    • 146 posts
    July 19, 2019 3:46 AM PDT

    definitely not in fact i would say some sort of reward for returning after a certain amount time has passed up to a certain point. nothing game breaking or ptw but in my opinion players should be encouraged to resub

    • 193 posts
    July 19, 2019 8:21 AM PDT

    No. The account is attached to the person who created it. There could be all kinds of problems with someone else controlling it later. Besides, like others have pointed out, life happens and you can and often do make it back. Banned accounts - don't think so. Odds are the reputation from those characters will always be in the backs of people's minds, even though it's someone else sitting at the keyboard. I think a better option for permanently banned accounts is simply deletion.

    • 844 posts
    July 19, 2019 8:32 AM PDT

    Storage lockers are put up for auction due to non-payment. Not really a good analogy. If storage lockers were offered as a lifetime deal with one initial payment, then your analogy might be correct.

    And since accounts are a few hex values, I find it hard to imagine them occupying that much space.

     

    And I have also returned to games I purchased long past, to then play again for extended periods.

    • 3852 posts
    July 19, 2019 8:52 AM PDT

    The OP is somewhat ambiguous - I am not sure if the intent was to suggest VR selling inactive accounts or VR providing the ability for players to sell accounts that they do not wish to continue.

    As to the first - no, for reasons adaquately given by others.

    As to the second - no. We may not be able to prevent accounts being sold on ebay or otherwise but we certainly shouldn't encourage it or provide an easy way to do it.  How is this different than having an in-game store and allowing players to buy tokens that let them create maximum level characters without knowing a thing about the game or their class. No, no, no no!!!!!!


    This post was edited by dorotea at July 19, 2019 10:42 AM PDT
    • 1484 posts
    July 19, 2019 9:21 AM PDT

    Are you a specialist of worst ideas ever Aich or did you turn into a polemic troll ?

  • July 19, 2019 9:57 AM PDT
    Wait, someone explain what an advantage of this would/could be? I feel I missed an important point somewhere.
    • 18 posts
    July 19, 2019 10:41 AM PDT

    No.  Earn your own items and don't deter people from coming back after a hiatus (if not banned).  Also, removing items from game (banned accounts or characters who never login again) is good to help offset inflation of the market.

    • 413 posts
    July 19, 2019 12:48 PM PDT

    Troll topic.

    • 9115 posts
    July 19, 2019 11:36 PM PDT

    We will not be auctioning or selling any banned, inactive or any other types of accounts.

    • 801 posts
    July 20, 2019 2:25 AM PDT

    i CC your opening a whole lot of problems doing this.

    • 3852 posts
    July 20, 2019 8:30 AM PDT

    I doubt if anyone took this idea seriously but thanks Kilsin for the information.

    • 105 posts
    July 20, 2019 10:33 AM PDT

    Selling off the account or items earned by it would be a very bad idea.  On the other hand, I'd have no problem with the idea of clearing character names after a certain fairly lengthy period of inaction.

    • 769 posts
    July 20, 2019 11:31 AM PDT

    It's an interesting topic. I would firmly thank and agree with Kilsin and Vandraad. 

    That said, perhaps there could be a system design in place for those who want to leave the game and sell or gift their belongings in a practical and reasonably easy and swift manner.

    This could be just a storage npc or sorts that guides departing players through the whole gift or sell out process. (This all for ingame currency only ofc). Since the account is undisputably owned by the real life person. 

    The ingame currency that the departing player ends up with, can still be gifted or 'destroyed' if they really wanted to. 

    This would leave the account owner with a game account without any enduring belongings or content/ an empty or fresh account as it were.

    It might not be the same as what the OP aimed for, but it could be a consideration at least.


    This post was edited by Barin999 at July 20, 2019 11:31 AM PDT