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More Different Than Gnomes!

    • 73 posts
    July 1, 2017 5:06 AM PDT

    I like the originalitty of the gnomes and halflings, I just wished they weren't called gnomes and halflings. No one is complainging about the Skar, because they didn't call them Trolls.

    • 22 posts
    May 21, 2018 12:22 PM PDT
    In my opinion, the halflings are fine. The look of the halfling that we see is what makes me want to play one. Never liked races being too small. If the size of halflings is shrunk to like they were in Everquest, I'll go Dark Myr. If it were me I would make the dwarf model the same height as the halfling just with a more muscular build.

    Now to gnomes. I might have read the lore wrong, but weren't gnomes a smaller size until they put themselves into the machines they made? If so, the gnomes are fine for me. Again, dont like small races being too small. Keep them as is.
    • 103 posts
    May 31, 2018 5:43 AM PDT

    Gnomes have referred to many different creatures over the course of mythology. I believe they were originaly wee things that lived in fey hills and played tricks. As to halflings, Wizards of the Coast wanted a hobbit like race for their game, but for legal reasons they couldn't call them hobbits, so they changed the race to thinner, more adventurous (to the point of wanderlust) trickster rogues, and called them halflings, and so we have examples like Tasslehoff Burrfoot held up against Bilbo, the most adventurous of hobbits.

    If we're talking about sticking to absolute hallmarks of a race when naming a race a pre-existing name, we should really make the gnomes live like brownies, and leave the halflings the way they are because they're pretty close to the *actual* halflings.

    This post was edited by wizen at May 31, 2018 5:43 AM PDT
    • 15 posts
    June 2, 2018 1:21 AM PDT

    I really love what they've done with both Gnomes and Halflings. Love the creativity and willingness to step outside the box. 

    • 257 posts
    September 7, 2019 2:34 AM PDT

    Beefcake said:

    Although I love Pantheon's version of Gnomes, a lot of people disagree with the abandonment of traditional Gnomes. But, no one seems to be pointing out how different the Halflings are in Pantheon.

    Traditionally, probably caused by Tolkien, halflings/hobbits are short, stout, hungry, burrow-dwelling farmers.

    But in Pantheon, they:

      Are taller than Gnomes and Dwarves

      Live in a TREE city

      Skinny with punk style hairdos

      Bow shooting

      Naturally stealthy

      Always on the run

      Formally tall, "full stature"

      Fight, sing and adventure with -- as they believe -- justified rebellion, embracing the youthful gift of the unfulfilled curse

      Are serious wraith hunters

    The only thing in common with traditional halflings is the name. And, they just got the name halflings because their curse of reducing size ended after 5 years instead of ten, hence halflings.


    But, Gnomes having artificial bodies bothers people.

    It may not sound like it, but I actually like these halflings better, just shocked that people are not discussing this.

    NOTE: All this is info from



    I think it's because the Gnomes are just SO different.  They're basically Ethereals from WoW, but without the greed/money making motivation.  That's not normally a playable race in most games, and doesn't even exist in a lot of game worlds/lore.

    Halflings are still "short Humans", so there isn't as much difference there.  I get vibes from the movie Hook and the Lost Boys from Peter Pan myself, and kind of crossed with Wood Elves, which are also a traditional race.  Which in some ways I don't like, but in others I do.  So it's kind of more mixed.

    Gnomes are like a cross between science fiction of some kind and high fantasy multi-planar beings, which is just significantly different than "shorter Dwarves that may or may not wear pointy hats".

    Don't get me wrong, I kinda like both takes - if Gnomes could play a healer, I'd probably sign in as a Gnome - but I can see why people have reacted the way they have, and to both races respectively.