Forums » The Elves

    • 424 posts
    June 28, 2016 5:07 PM PDT
    So Elves are shorter than Humans now? Gone are the days of the gloriously tall High Elf?
    • 424 posts
    June 28, 2016 5:10 PM PDT
    • 203 posts
    June 28, 2016 6:56 PM PDT

    Height between these two races has always fluctuated. LoTR had them around the same height depending on which elf or human was being portrayed - but Tolkien had some weird ideas about powerful characters being super tall. AD&D had elves being a few inches shorter than humans - the way it should be! Skinny, tree loving hippies...

    • 21 posts
    July 3, 2016 5:03 AM PDT

    I hope there is a height slider in character creation for each race.  That way all elves created are not the same height.  The variation should be within reason for the race.  That way there might be a slight height overlap between shorter humans and taller elves.

    • 424 posts
    July 5, 2016 12:33 PM PDT
    That'd be nice, Sparks.
    • 4581 posts
    November 7, 2016 9:05 AM PST

    Pantheon elves are probably more comparable to wood elves, which IIRC, are not taller than humans. The term "elf" has a wide variety of meanings. I mean, think of Santa's "elves" haha - they are usually as short as dwarves and gnomes. I think Pantheon has the freedom to make them whatever height they want. Regardless of lore, one word remains applicable: dainty. lol

    • 16 posts
    February 14, 2017 7:20 PM PST

    I'm a fan of Tolkienien elves:

    "In the beginning the Elder Children of Illuvatar were stronger and greater than they have since become, but not more fair, for though the beautiy of the Quendi in the days of their youth was beyond all other beauty that Illuvatar has caused to be, it has not perished, but lives in the West, and sorrow and wisdom have enriched it." -The Silmarillion, Ch. 3

    I can't find the quote(s), despite 30 minutes of looking, but basically elvish children aren't really destinguishable from human children, except that they don't reach reproductive age until they are 50, and achieve full adulthood at 100, such that a 20 year old might look to be a 6 or 7 year old human, but be wise vastly beyond what an observer might think a human child would be. They are slightly taller, generally more slender, are not said to have pointy ears, and they worship the stars. They typically have dark hair and grey eyes, and come in Wood Elf, High Elf, and Sea Elf varieties, depending on what their tribes found most beautiful in the ancient past. They also exist in the spirit realm simultaneously with the physical realm, are not afraid of evil, and exhibit magical powers in craftsmanship, and some degree of shamanism. 

    Gandalf made the waters look like horses, but the Elves summoned the water in the horse-chase in "Fellowship".


    This post was edited by DeviantFox at February 14, 2017 7:21 PM PST
    • 16 posts
    February 14, 2017 7:51 PM PST

    "It is one with this gift of freedom that the children of Men dwell only a short space in the world alive, and are not bound to it, and depart soon whither the elves know not. Whereas the Elves remain until the end of days, and their love of the Earth and all the world is more single and more poignant therefore, and as the years lengthen ever more sorrowful. For the Elves die not until the world dies, unless they are slain or waste in grief (and to both these seeming deaths they are subject); neither does age subdue their strength, unless one grow weary of ten thousand centuries; and dying they are gathered to the halls of Mandos in Valinor, whence they may in time return. But the sons of Men die indeed, and leave the world; wherefore they are called the Guests, or the Strangers. Death is their fate, the gift of Illuvatar, which as Time wears even the Powers shall envy." - The Silmarillion, Ch. 2

    "In those days Elves and Men were of like stature and strength of body, buth the Elves had greater wisdom, and skill, and beauty; and those who had dwelt in Valinor and looked upon the Powers as much surpassed the Dark Elves in these things as they in turn surpassed the people of mortal race". -The Silmarillion, Ch. 12

    (Dark Elves being those who did not traverse the Sea to Valinor in the First Age, not evil or visually different)

    This post was edited by DeviantFox at February 14, 2017 7:52 PM PST