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Looking for 4K love!

    • 844 posts
    March 12, 2016 10:47 PM PST

    So I saw some of the media was released in 4K so I am optimistic that playing Patheon in 4K will be supported, and have a decent sizable UI.

    I have played some games that look great in 4K but the resizing of the UI makes it difficult to negotiate the menus and mouse.

    Fallout 4, awesome in 4K.

     

    equipment: 980ti

    monitor: Samsung 40JU6500

    • 1473 posts
    March 13, 2016 12:45 AM PST

    I was going to ask the same question at some point. Although I don't have a 4k monitor at the moment I'd love to get one in the future. It would be cool to have proper scalable UI so that the text wasn't absolutely tiny when displaying at a really high resolution. I recently played a little bit on the EQ TLP server and had that problem when playing EQ at 1440p. The default text was just too small to read (maybe I'm getting old).

    • 844 posts
    March 13, 2016 1:35 AM PST

    4K is awesome, if the game has the quality.

    here is a shot from Fallout4, hi-res but still reduced from its 10M original.

    http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh72/zewtastic/RCGC/cait.jpg~original

     Gotta add that part at the end with the tilde to get the full size. boo.


    This post was edited by zewtastic at March 13, 2016 1:43 AM PST
    • 130 posts
    March 13, 2016 10:47 AM PDT

    I talked to VR on FB once about 4K and was told the assets (textures) are high resolution and that the game supports 4K.

    • 1714 posts
    March 13, 2016 6:04 PM PDT

    More important than 4k, imo, is 21:9. 

    • 95 posts
    March 13, 2016 6:20 PM PDT

    I love 4k, but the scalability of the UI has to support it. 

    With other factors like dual monitors for various factors like guild websites, quest/game websites, web based help for in game issues, youtube, twich, etc you can't just window it and expect the game to work properly without some forethought. This is early enough in development that they should be able to address these issues. 

    • 671 posts
    March 13, 2016 7:07 PM PDT

    zewtastic said:

    So I saw some of the media was released in 4K so I am optimistic that playing Patheon in 4K will be supported, and have a decent sizable UI.

    I have played some games that look great in 4K but the resizing of the UI makes it difficult to negotiate the menus and mouse.

    Fallout 4, awesome in 4K.

     

    equipment: 980ti

    monitor: Samsung 40JU6500

     

    Hey bro...   you won't have a problem at all.

    Matter of fact, as Pantheon comes closer to release, I will be doing several mock system builds for people, and 4K will be easily had for in some of my build scenarios for as little as $2k, for whole system.

    Windows 10 and DX12 will stabilitize a PC gaming platform, and along with these new 64bit playgrounds, these developers are now free from a lot of bottlenecks that have plagued large, mass scale games such as MMORPG's. And on a new Win10 platform, where games can actually make use of the CPU & GPU cores...  means richer worlds for all...  and we are now seeing a push in a new era of 64bit gaming & a push for 4k content (& a new video card war).

    Also, Pantheon will most likely support Virtual Reality, because the Unity engine itself.  (ergo: where Unity goes... so goes Pantheon & VRi)

     

     

    So in essense, you can build what ever rig you want, because I have been dreaming about a 4K landscape for a long while now...     ..the question will be if  "we the people" have the rigs to run it... : )

     

    • 132 posts
    March 13, 2016 9:28 PM PDT

    I can't give you a link because I can't remember where I read it. Brad said the game WILL suppport 4K and also Hyper Threading both. 

    The 980 Ti should do very well. I am building a new system when this game comes out, it will be a 4K system.

    if I built today it would be 

    Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1151 91W - water cooled

    GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

    EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 06G-P4-1996-KR 6GB HYBRID GAMING, "All in One" No Hassle Water Cooling

    SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 512GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V5P512BW

    WASABI MANGO UHD400 REAL 4K HDMI 2.0 40” 3840X2160 UHD HDCP 2.2 43 inch Display Port 10bit Monitor

    I need to research the monitor. I don't know that Wasabi name brand. but specs wise, it looks great.  I will be about 5-6' away from screen (roughly) 

    32GB of good ram. and 1000W -1200W PS. + sexy case.

     


    This post was edited by Medjai at March 13, 2016 9:33 PM PDT
    • 130 posts
    March 13, 2016 9:50 PM PDT

    Unity supports multi-threading, also during the stream it was said Pantheon will support multi-threading ...

    Brad's upper-end box he's using to test the game uses a GTX 960 (his is a 2GB card, mind you there's 4GB variants).  A 980 Ti, at this point in time, is overkill.

    A 980 Ti should be able to push 4K without much trouble.  You can always SLI them if you must have 120 FPS ... lol.  In EQ I had my FPS slider set to force 30 FPS even though my hardware could do 100's of FPS because I had my reaction timing after so many years attuned to 30FPS.  In a FPS shooter, I definitely go after as many FPS as possible but EQ was just a different case in how I approached it.

    I actually have a 960 4GB factory overclocked EVGA 4TW card because Brad noted his high-spec box uses a 960 2GB so I figured it pretty safe without blowing tons of money.

    • 132 posts
    March 13, 2016 9:56 PM PDT

    Vade said:

    Unity supports multi-threading, also during the stream it was said Pantheon will support multi-threading ...

    Brad's upper-end box he's using to test the game uses a GTX 960 (his is a 2GB card, mind you there's 4GB variants).  A 980 Ti, at this point in time, is overkill.

    A 980 Ti should be able to push 4K without much trouble.  You can always SLI them if you must have 120 FPS ... lol.  In EQ I had my FPS slider set to force 30 FPS even though my hardware could do 100's of FPS because I had my reaction timing after so many years attuned to 30FPS.  In a FPS shooter, I definitely go after as many FPS as possible but EQ was just a different case in how I approached it.

    I actually have a 960 4GB factory overclocked EVGA 4TW card because Brad noted his high-spec box uses a 960 2GB so I figured it pretty safe without blowing tons of money.

    I saw brad post his machines specs. its not high end. its a mid build at best and a 960 even with 4GB is a mid range card that would have a hard time with 2560x1440 with medium settings on most games.

    30FPS isnt good at all. 


    This post was edited by Medjai at March 13, 2016 9:57 PM PDT
    • 130 posts
    March 13, 2016 10:13 PM PDT

    It's Brad's high end machine, versus his lower-spec machine.  That's what I was saying.  And its significance is that the high end machine should be able to play everything at least in 1080p at full.  Of course, it's obviously not an ultra high end machine, because a 980 Ti is literally used-car territory in regard to expense.

    30FPS is simply how I rolled in EQ, it helped with my timing when I was running and would turn and cast spells to ensure I wouldn't get interrupts.  That's why I ran with it, I wasn't implying 30FPS is good for everyone.  Of course, the vast majority totally want more than 30 FPS and I do intend to play Pantheon with much more than and see how it goes.

    • 844 posts
    March 13, 2016 11:13 PM PDT

    Haha, I wasn't asking if a 980ti would run the game. I had no doubt it would be sufficient for any game out on ultra settings.

    And a 980ti does allows me to run 3 monitors, a 40" 4K, a 30" 2650x1600, and a 27" 1920x1080.

    It also allows me to stream in full 1080P 60hz, downscaling the 4k image to 1920. No one else seems to be able to pull it off on twitch. They are all 720 @ 30hz. Now mind you I am not a streamer, but I love to play with tech.

     

    • 1473 posts
    March 14, 2016 3:31 PM PDT

    zewtastic said:

    It also allows me to stream in full 1080P 60hz, downscaling the 4k image to 1920. No one else seems to be able to pull it off on twitch. They are all 720 @ 30hz. Now mind you I am not a streamer, but I love to play with tech.

    The reason people stream in 720p at 30fps is because most people have crappy internet connections so for the same bit rate you get higher quality video than if you streamed in 1080p. Of course most people could stream at 1080p at 60fps if they wanted but most people wouldn't be able to watch the stream because the bit rate would be too high and they would just get constant buffering all the time.

    So streaming at 720p at 30fps at 2000kbps is better than streaming at 1080p at 30fps at 3500kbps. You just get more viewers.