This is a difficult question to offer an informed opinion on. Looking at all 3 healers' 'support' abilities -abilities other than offensive or healing- I can count nearly twice as many of them in the Druid and Cleric lists as the Shaman. However, those listings are years old. In addiction, we've been told repeatedly that we haven't been told ALL of any classes abilities. Even the recent Living Codex that Cohh showed is supposedly incomplete.
We do have 3 flavors of a Slow, so we're not without an CC ability to offer. Charm seems to me to be more powerful than just a slow, root or mez. So I'm cautious of asking for too much, as the joy of getting an improvement to my class is never as great as the sadness of having something taken away. At least for me.
And that's my definitive answer ROLF.
What about the Pantheon version of the shaman even lends you to think that we have any relationship with animals OTHER than our alleged familiar wolf/bear thingy? Just because that exists doesn't mean we have some deep relationship with nature and animals that would justify having the ability to charm animals. Thats far more Ranger/Druid.
Vandraad said:What about the Pantheon version of the shaman even lends you to think that we have any relationship with animals OTHER than our alleged familiar wolf/bear thingy? Just because that exists doesn't mean we have some deep relationship with nature and animals that would justify having the ability to charm animals. Thats far more Ranger/Druid.
In the real world (yes, reality is my argument) a Shaman is every bit as entrenched and connected to the whole of Nature as a Druid is. Just from a different area of the world.
Shaman's didnt charm in EQ - Druids did...Shaman's had a spirit wolf pet...as they will in Pantheon.
I dont think Shaman's shoudl be able to charm...since they already have a pet. Plus i only charmed if i had a back up healer because if it broke after buffing it my pet would wrek me...especially in POH...charm a big ape and buff it up crazy....aaaah they would kill my druid so fast...
ShaggNasty said:Shaman's didnt charm in EQ - Druids did...Shaman's had a spirit wolf pet...as they will in Pantheon. I dont think Shaman's shoudl be able to charm...since they already have a pet. Plus i only charmed if i had a back up healer because if it broke after buffing it my pet would wrek me...especially in POH...charm a big ape and buff it up crazy....aaaah they would kill my druid so fast...
Shamans had regular Enchanter Charm early on in Beta and into release but was extremely limited due to the level they recieved it. It worked on all targets but was setup so that you couldn't charm anything higher than green or low blue con. I forgot the exact level disparity but I remember Shamans obtained Charm at 29 and Beguile at 44. They had a level cap of 24 and 37 respectively. They were then changed to Befriend Animals at 29 and Charm Animals at 34. Basically Druid versions but obtained at a much higher level. They still have those two charm spells today and on the EMUs like P99.
Remember, 34 was when Shamans got their pet wolf so Befriend Animal would be used if desired but probably because there was no alternative.
Personally, I don't think they should get anything of the sort in Pantheon, the same for Druid as their focus is more on an entirely new function, especially with the Druid relying on their Fox pet or whatever variation it decides to take on. They could allow Druids to use a similar spell as Enchanter's Shock & Awe in which your target is confused (won't accept commands) and attacks the nearest non-allied, non-mezzed target for the duration but in Druids case is animal only and on breaking, it returns from where it came.
I would rather be able to do something like call a spirit ally than charm a mob. I remember being able to debuff, slow and root a mob, queuing it up for the tank. I took pride in being able to handle adds in other ways besides the enchantes mez. I would rather not have a charm ability as a Shaman.